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Pick My Brain:
Ben Miller
Internet Wrestling Columnist
June 19, 2002
Poor Ben Miller. He tried to do a serious
interview with us, and then gets asked about a gay ring announcer.
Ben writes columns every now and then for
www.wrestlingobserver.com. You definitely need to check out some of
his fine articles there.
Ben is a serious guy who means business, and
while this isn't the best website for serious people, we enjoyed his
interview nonetheless.
So sit back and enjoy picking the brain of...
Ben Miller.
1. First off, tell us what you're up to and
where we can read more of your work. In other words, plug anything you
wanna plug.
I write for the Wrestling Observer newsletter and website.
Generally I write about a column per month for the newsletter and I try
to get in a short column every week or two for the website. The address
is
www.wrestlingobserver.com. You can find information on ordering the
newsletter at that website.
2. Most wrestling fans would consider it a major coup to be a
columnist for the Observer. How did you get the gig?
I was a big wrestling fan as a child but when the industry veered more
towards cable television in the early nineties I was unable to follow it
as closely because I didn't have cable. When I got to college I began
watching Raw and Nitro again in early 1996, right around the time Hogan
was battling the Dungeon of Doom and the buildup to Wrestlemania XII was
going on.
When my roommate got a computer with internet access I went to several
online websites, starting with Mike Samuda's old website, "MiCasa". I
was amazed at the amount of inside information on the internet so I
began reading every day and in February 1997 I used USC's free student
websites to create a website of my own called, "The Rock Report". I
tried to cover as much as I could of the online scene but updates were
not consistent because I didn't own a computer of my own.
In March, 1998, Mike Samuda created, "Wrestlemaniacs" along with "Online
Onslaught" owner Rick Scaia and he put out a notice seeking columnists.
I sent him a few pieces I wrote for The Rock Report, including a piece
on how pro wrestling could never again become as large as it was in the
80's and another sentimental piece written in memory of Shawn Michaels'
career after the infamous, "lost my smile" speech in 1997.
He agreed to sign me on as a columnist. Mike asked me to come up with a
name for my weekly column, and not being able to think of anything, I
chose, "Eye of the Storm". That actually lasted just one week as some
wingnut from Tennessee sent me a detailed email about how he owned that
name as it pertained to wrestling journalism from covering some podunk
promotion so since I wasn't enthralled with the name anyway, I changed
the column to, "Millertime", which is the name it kept for the next 3
1/2 years. I also changed the name of my website from, "The Rock Report"
to, "MillerTime Archives."
In June of 1999 Sportsline.com decided they wanted to latch on to the
online wrestling boom and they bought out Wrestlemaniacs. Mike was nice
enough to bring me along as a columnist. With the Sportsline name I was
able to do a few interviews that I am extremely proud of with Vince
Russo a few days before he left the WWF for WCW (I swear I still think
that interview helped him get that job), Sonny Oono shortly after filing
a racial discrimination suit against WCW (where his lawyer foolishly
tried to rewrite history in a combative interview) and Shane Douglas
shortly after his falling out with WCW.
In June of 2001 Sportsline.com finally offered to pay for my columns,
but when the offer came in at a pathetic $25 per week I started to look
elsewhere. Wade Keller of the Torch contacted me about
Wrestlemaniacs' contract with Sportsline coming up and so I considered
his offer.
I asked several people for advice on leaving for the Torch, including
Dave Meltzer. When I finally agreed to leave, I wrote Dave an email
thanking him for his advice and he said that if I was going to leave
anyway, why not come to the Observer? Obviously, that was a
no-brainer though I did feel bad about accepting the offer from Keller
and even posting on my Wrestleline column that I was leaving for the
Torch, and then backing out and going to the Observer. I did write
to apologize to Keller, but of course I never got a response. Then in
typical Keller fashion, he wrote a column on the Torch website
contradictory to my very first column on the Observer site later
that day.
The timeline on that all happened in about July of 2001. Unfortuately
with the collapse of WCW and the lowering in quality (at least in my
opinon) of the Japanese products, there has been far less interesting
topics to write about in my time at the Observer than there were when I
was working for no pay at Wrestleline.
3. In your opinion, who had the most success in wrestling without
having a world class physique?
A. Mick Foley
B. Roddy Piper
C. Ric Flair
D. Dusty Rhodes
E. Bobby Eaton
F. Mikey Whipwreck
G. Sandman
H. Gorgeous George
I. Other
I think putting Flair and Piper in a group
with Foley is rediculous because both Flair and Piper used steroids
regularly in the eighties and it appears that Flair still uses some
physique enhancing drug even today. Actually, I can't be sure that Flair
ever did but Piper admitted it to me in an interview.
Foley in my opinon had the most success with a physique that you would
in no way associate with a wrestler, but he wrestled a hardcore style
that is probably a bigger plague on this industry than steroids will
ever be.
4. You wrote that promotions can do better business promoting
wrestlers who have better physiques. Explain why the following ripped
wrestlers never drew much money:
-Sid Vicious:
-Lex Luger:
-Warlord:
-Barbarian:
-Sean O'Haire:
-Ted Arcidi:
You're missing the point of what I wrote. Just because a better physique
enables wrestlers to draw more money does not mean that a great physique
is a guarantee of success on wrestling's top level. It is ridiculous to
argue that a bodybuilder with no charisma or wrestling ability to draw
just as it is ridiculous to argue that a wrestler's physical appearance
has no bearing on his ability to draw.
Remember that exceptions are needed to prove the rule. Foley and Rhodes
are exceptions to the rule that fans respond to great bodies. There are
dozens of cases for every case like their's that prove the rule.
5. If physiques are more important to fans
than ability, then what is your response to the fact Ted DiBiase was a
huge star in the WWF while Virgil never broke out of the undercard?
Comparing single examples in any argument is foolish. You have to look
at the macro view, not the micro view. Any idiot can argue that economic
reform in America is not needed because every American child has at
least a chance for professional success. The fact is, though, that
children that grow up surrounded by crime and poverty will always have a
higher propensity to commit crimes on average because of their
surroundings. The same applies here. Looking at the WWF's economic
success it is clear that their periods of success are more closely tied
to great looking bodies than great workrate.
6. Meltzer once wrote in the early 90s that his solution to the
steroid testing would be a system something like this: 1) Give the guys
several weeks warning that they need to get off the juice. 2) Have a
bodybuilding physique expert or doctor evaluate each guy's physique
visually to determine if he is still on the juice. 3) If the
doctor/expert says someone is still on, then that person has to do a
clean job on TV. 4) To avoid legal problems, the guy would have to job
to someone of superior in-ring ability. The problem with this system is
that: a) How can you officially and legally declare someone as having
superior in-ring ability, and b) It equates doing clean jobs
as punishment, and a healthy locker room environment should consist of
guys who see the value in clean finishes and putting over others at the
right time when it's good for business. What are your thoughts on that
system?
I don't like that particular system and, though I can't be sure, I would
argue that with another decade of hindsight Dave would probably not view
that as a good system.
In my opinion, the best way to curtail steroid use is to institute
testing and unilaterally enforce punishment regardless of who gets
caught. That is only a good system if your goal is to curtail use and no
other factors are important. Of course you will still have use under
that system, but it will be curtailed.
If I were running a promotion (and you should take this with a grain of
salt because I have never been exposed to the pressures of actually
having my finger on the trigger of an entire promotion) I would try to
find friendly doctors who understand the realities of the business and
make appointments for wrestlers that want to do cycles occasionally so
that if they are going to do it, they do it in the healthiest way
possible. I don't believe that conservative steroid use is a terrible
killer and I would hope that my wrestlers would largely be willing to
meet with a professional to use in the safest way possible if they
insist on using.
7. In my opinion, addiction to painkillers
is just as dangerous as addiction to performance enhancing drugs. If
you were in charge of WWE, would you take steps to alleviate the
plethora of big bumps and the ultra-physical style that lends itself to
painkillers?
I don't believe that performance enhancing drugs are actually physically
addicting but I agree 100% with your point. The problem really starts at
the foundation of the business where young wrestlers are allowed to
perform high risk stunts. My solution would be to not allow anyone on
television who doesn't show an ability to work a quality match without a
single highspot. I believe that highspots are more the results of a
wrestler's craving for public acceptance than anything and if the
wrestler has the ability to get a great reaction from a normal match, he
is far, far less likely to put his body at risk.
Also, i believe using guaranteed contracts so that wrestlers are allowed
to stay home and heal without their pay being cut is another way to
curtail painkiller use.
8. To alleviate the constant pain of the big bumps, I'd totally
eliminate house shows. It's a drastic measure, and house shows are a
major revenue stream, but it would save lives. The problem with that is
the young guys don't get the experience and the chance to improve that
house shows provide. My answer to that is simply hold practice sessions
like pro sports do. This would also allow ring veterans like Malenko
and Arn Anderson to act as coaches to the younger guys. What is your
take on that idea?
I think eliminating house shows is a terrible idea. I believe a better
idea is working storylines so that wrestlers get about a month off each
year from the schedule. House shows are so vital to business as far as
keeping fans in various cities feeling like they are part of the company
that there is no way I would eliminate them. I believe working 3 or 4
days a week with one month off per year would at least reduce painkiller
use a good amount.
9. As unfair an advantage as steroids or HGH provide, it is also
unfair that some have better genetics than others. I mean, Dustin
Rhodes could eat steroids for lunch and dinner and not look like Lex
Luger. And Juventud Guerrera will never be as tall as Kevin Nash. By
that token, suppose a clean Dwayne Johnson and a clean Dean Malenko had
the same exact in-ring ability and promo skills. Would it be unfair to
push Dwayne ahead of Dean? Johnson's only advantage would then only be
height and a body that reacts better to weight-training. In other
words, you can say Undertaker's main aura wasn't his physique, but he
did get over partly on his huge natural size. And when he first got
over, his arms were MUCH bigger than they are now.
I don't think Undertaker's arms were bigger than they are now, and in
fact I believe they were smaller back in 1991 when he first hit it big.
I believe you push wrestlers based on what is best for your company as
long as wrestlers are following your company's rules regardless of any
other mitigating factors. If you made the decision to not test for
steroids, it is hypocritical to shortchange a worthy push because you
suspect he is on the juice. As a promoter you simply have to trust your
bookers to make decisions that will be best for the company without
worrying about any other factors.
10. Suppose you had a son who wants to be a wrestler. Would you
rather he jump off the roof into a pool of thumbtacks, or take
performance enhancing drugs?
Of course I'd rather have him take steroids. Jumping off a roof is so
stupid on so many levels. I wouldn't recommend that he take steroids and
I would probably forbid him from training if I found out that he did,
but given the choice it is an easy choice to make.
11. A supplement with much more widespread use among youths is
creatine. Studies haven't proven as many negative side effects, but its
long term potential damage is unknown. What is your take on creatine?
I have taken creatine, though admittedly my use wasn't disciplined
enough to actually make as much of a difference as I wanted it to. It is
no where close to what steroids or HGH can give you and I would
sincerely doubt that it will prove to be very harmful long term.
I don't think I would endorse kids younger than 12 taking creatine but
as far as teenagers go I think it is safe enough to warrant use if you
actually can afford such an expensive product for relatively minimal
gains.
12. What is the greatest match you have ever
seen?
I have to go with Hart vs. Austin at Wrestlemania 13 in the Submission
Match. The buildup, match and finish was everything pro wrestling should
be at it's greatest in my opinion.
13. Who is the most immoral of the following and why?
A. Vince McMahon
B. Pat Patterson
C. Mel Phillips
D. Jake Roberts
E. John Collins
F. Terry Bollea
G. Carlos Colon
Jesus H. Christ. Everyone has their good and bad points so I'm not going
to judge morality based on rumors and stuff I've read about people's
careers.
14. Noted wrestling fan and epidemiologist, Dr. Jeff Levin, said in
1991 that pro wrestlers were among the highest risk groups for HIV
infection. Do you think promoters should test for HIV if they insist on
making blading part of their product?
No. If Jeff Levin still believes that (and I would strongly suggest that
he doesn't) then I don't believe Jeff Levin knows what the hell he's
talking about. Remember that in 1991 people didn't want Magic Johnson
playing basketball because it was rumored that sweat could transmit HIV.
My guess is that is the reason that Levin said that. I believe that HIV
transmission probably is a greater source of misinformation among the
American public than just about every other issue besides the conflict
in the middle east.
15. What do you predict the wrestling landscape will look like in 5
years?
I believe that the WWF will lose its place on network television and I
believe that Ted Turner will allow pro wrestling on a network that he
will start up.
16. If NWA TNA ditched the Russo philosophy and did a straight-ahead
traditional wrestling approach, would their chances of success be any
higher?
Yes, but without television they still would be nearly zero.
17. Since you're not an old-time wrestler from the territorial days,
you might have a different opinion on this. Does Shawn Michaels belong
in the Observer Hall of Fame?
Of course he does. I have written columns promoting his entry every year
since he has become eligible.
18. Should professional wrestling newsletters
cover MMA? What does MMA have to do with wrestling anyway? You can
make the argument that many elements do cross over, but you could also
make that argument with amateur wrestling or pro football too.
Yes, pro wrestling newsletters should cover MMA. They also cover amateur
wrestling, though the coverage on that is less intense because MMA is a
more popular sport world wide and among the readership of wrestling
newsletters.
MMA is basically what pro wrestling would be if it were real.
19. You're in a dark alley surrounded by 3 tough-looking thugs in
the middle of the night. Who would you pick to be on your side and why?
A. Kurt Angle
B. Dan Severn
C. Ken Shamrock
D. Brock Lesnar
E. Steve Williams
F. Bart Gunn
G. Haku
H. Barbarian
I. Big Show
J. Adrian Street
Which ever one is carrying a gun.
20. Finally, what is your favorite era in wrestling and why?
I like the mid-nineties because I felt it had something for every type
of fan. MMA, Hardcore style in ECW, star power in WCW, great main events
in the WWF, cruisers in WCW and New Japan, heavyweights in All Japan and
one of the hottest periods of lucha ever with AAA.
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Lest anyone get the wrong idea, we're big
fans of Ben's work. He said a lot of things here that made sense, and
we applaud his intelligence and thinking process. Be sure to check out
his columns.
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